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I've been a casual reader of the Wiki for a while, been thinking of contributing... but one thing that's always bothered me is the insistence on listing every straight guy who's ever recieved money to do gay porn as "bisexual", both in the article lead and the biobox. This is just ridiculous and delusional. Porn actors are sex workers, not everything, or even anything they film is necessarily a representative of their personal sexual orientation. Is the idea that male gay for pay porn stars just never existed? Not once? The "bisexual" category on this Wiki defines bisexuality as "sexual or romantic attraction to people of one's same sex and of the opposite sex." so it's not just the Wiki simply classifying them as bisexual because they've done both gay and straight porn or something, the Wiki insinuated that they are bisexual people, which they're not. As a long time fan of gay porn and also a lot of these guys, I know a lot of information about them, and a LOT of these performers are simply straight, as they've also stated. I'm fully gay but I had sex with girls in high school (because I was trying to maintain a social image) does that make me bisexual? I don't think so. It's a shame, because this Wiki tries to be so detailed, but this is just purposeful false information. I'm sure even the admins know a lot of these guys are just straight. I'd offer to edit all of that (or at least to remove claims of bisexuality) but the bioboxes seem to be permalocked sadly.

Hi Drki,

Thanks for the feedback.

Quick clarification: decisions on sexual orientation parameters (including P347 in PBD and related categories on PBC) are handled by the Verification Committee. They make recommendations based on data from their closed database, using criteria that have full admin consensus.

You're right about our definition of bisexuality. We stick strictly to "sexual or romantic attraction to people of one's same sex and of the opposite sex," and we will continue to do so.

Do G4P performers exist? Yes. The phenomenon certainly exists. Just none of them have been added as articles here. Their share among all performers is very small. As a rule, such people do not produce much gay content and, in our terminology, articles about them tend to have low notability, although there are exceptions.

As for your question whether everyone who has performed in both hetero and gay scenes is automatically labeled as bisexual, the answer is no. There is no automatic process. The Verification Committee reviews each case individually and issues recommendations based on specific criteria established by the administrators. There is no automated labeling on PBC.

Welp, in that case the committe is faulty.

"The phenomenon certainly exists. Just none of them have been added as articles here. Their share among all performers is very small." Really? Are you sure? Lmao. 85% of performers listed as "bisexual" on here are just G4P and the "bisexual" designation is based on nothing. There are also sources where they themselves blatantly say they're straight (as if it's not obvious) in interviews and social media posts.

In fact, G4P performers either match or outweigh actual bisexual and gay men in certain markets. There are so many Czech gay for pay porn stars that it's a whole ecosystem in and of itself. Do you rally think all those Belami guys are bisexual, for example? Do you think Max Born is bisexual?

Sexuality ≠ sexual identity, and PBC's criteria for sexuality-related categories will always be based on established facts rather than original research. You're free to disagree with what is written on PBC. Critical thinking should be applied to anything you read on the internet, and that's generally a good practice.

If I ever have reason to doubt that Max Born is bisexual, I will make the appropriate change to his article.

If you have any other questions about how PBC operates, feel free to ask. I'll be happy to answer them.